A perpetual in another case - the Calibre de Cartier QP

Aug 21, 2011,08:19 AM
 

The perpetual calendar in the Fine Watchmaking line was originally launched in the Tortue case. Though it has a well proportioned face, the perpetual calendar in that case is too thick and presents an inelegant profile in my opinion.

 


 

The Tortue Quantieme Perpetuel 

 

Instead the perpetual calendar in the sporty and chunky Calibre de Cartier case works much better. Sporty perpetual calendar is a bit of an oxymoron functionally, but this watch isn't a true sports watch, it's more of lounging on the deck of a yacht than getting in the water.

 


 

 

Both the Calibre and Tortue perpetuals are mechanically identical, with a retrograde perpetual calendar module fitted to the in-house 1904 MC movement. The overall height of the movement and module is 5.88 mm high, which explains the thickness of the case.

 

The month and leap year are displayed in the subdial at noon while the day is on a retrograde scale at six. The date is around the perimeter of the dial. All are indicated by red tipped hands that remind me of a croupier’s rake. Generally it is all very legible, though there are only date numerals are odd-numbered dates.

 


 

Month and leap year indicator 

 


 

Day of week display 

 


 

Date - takes a second to read sometimes

 


 

 

I very much prefer the Calibre de Cartier QP because the proportions work much better. It’s not a very large watch at 42 mm in diameter, but dense and heavy thanks to the massive case. Though it’s thick at 16.5 mm, it works well for this style of case, especially with the large lugs and crown guard. Even though the Calibre de Cartier seems like a more massive watch, it’s actually more compact compared to the Tortue. In contrast the Tortue is 45.6 mm wide and 51 mm long.

 


 

Prominent lugs and crown guards with trademark sapphire on top of crown 

 

The dial is unusual fusion of old and new. Blue steel sword hands, guilloche dial and Roman numerals, but the font on the dial is modern looking and designed for the Calibre de Cartier and used in all watches of the line. The typeface is especially obvious in the subdial at 12 o’clock with the letters for the month and numbers for the leap year.

 


 


 

 

If Cartier used an open dial, like that on the Tortue QP, I think it would be perfect; the looks fits better with the contemporary case than with the Tortue.

 


 


 

Tortue QP with open dial  

 

And so now the question is: Calibre de Cartier or Tortue QP? In an earlier straw poll the guilloche dial Tortue QP won by a large margin.

 

This...

 


 


 

or this?

 

 

 

- SJX

This message has been edited by SJX on 2011-08-21 08:29:23


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Thanks a lot SJX for the post.

 
 By: foversta : August 21st, 2011-14:50
I prefer the Calibre case for this complication but I don't like the font which is used... it seems to be too "computerized". Fx

Computerised

 
 By: SJX : August 22nd, 2011-20:28
That is the right description Foversta. It reminds me of the so-called "computer" dial of Rolex. - SJX

Agree

 
 By: halkcb : August 31st, 2011-20:36
with your comment on the computerised nature of the font----that's why the tortue version with guilloche is more appealing to me a side comment is why don't they start the day mode with sunday rather than monday? any reason? best

tortue for me

 
 By: playtime : August 21st, 2011-19:12
just a matter of taste....... J

I'm impressed

 
 By: Davo : August 22nd, 2011-14:23
Looks fantastic in the Calibre case. Definitely must check that one out. Thanks for posting, SJX.

I agee the skeleton version would be very nice

 
 By: cazalea : August 23rd, 2011-11:03
plus they could save all that fancy dial engraving and give us air instead. A great solution except for the obvious problem of how to support the Cartier name placque Cheers Cazalea

Definitely like the Calibre better than the Tortue

 
 By: docsnov : August 26th, 2011-13:53
I am usually not a fan of skeletonized cases, so I am not sure I would like a skeletonized Calibre better than the models shown. Thanks for the pictures and report. Stewart

Thanks JX

 
 By: DaMctosh : September 6th, 2011-08:52
It's the Tortue for me. It has that classic Cartier look and balance. Even though the round movement is more suited to the Calibre, I find the case unnecessarily big and inelegant in some ways. It looked good to me until I put it on my wrist and somehow i... 

Still prefer the Tortue QP

 
 By: Hororgasm : September 6th, 2011-14:03
Just purely from design point of view. Another comprehensive report and excellent close up photos. Best, Horo